Where to store documents for a car
3 reasons to keep your vehicle title at home and not in the car
PTS is a very important document for a car, like a passport for a person. Many drivers confuse that the inspector has the right to check it - no, he cannot do this. The road guard may ask to see your license, insurance, vehicle registration certificate and disability certificate if you have the appropriate sign on your car. Experts advise not to carry your passport with you on your car at all. Why?
1. If car thieves break into your car and take away your “swallow”, and you left the title in the glove compartment, then with this document it is much easier to sell the car, experts say.
According to supporters of leaving the title at home, the criminal can draw up a purchase and sale agreement using a stolen passport for the car. Many have encountered the fact that resellers are selling cars that are not their own, and another person is indicated on the title. But they buy, and few people think that they can take a stolen car.
2. If you carry a PTS with you and accidentally lose it, or your bag containing documents, including a car passport, is stolen, then you will have no choice but to contact the traffic police for a duplicate PTS. What does this mean for the owner? There will be problems during subsequent sales.
When a buyer sees a duplicate title, doubt immediately arises: was there only one owner of this car, as the owner claims? Maybe there were so many of them that the first document ran out and another was issued. In any case, you may lose a buyer. Many people know that resellers do this - they go to the traffic police, write a statement about the loss of the document and receive a clean title.
3. If your PTS is taken away or you lose it, you will have to restore this document in any case. This means you will have to waste time contacting the traffic police. We emphasize that it is impossible to restore the original PTS; you will be given a document marked “duplicate”. If you lost or damaged a document, go to the State Traffic Inspectorate, waste time in line and get a new document. This could have been avoided if the vehicle had been left at home. And he would be there safe and sound.
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Where is the best place to store documents?
Nikomoto 31 Jan 2014
The question may seem stupid, but I’m still wondering where you keep your driver’s license, wallet, or in the car itself, or a banal pocket, who and where?
Konstantin 01 Feb 2014
I bought myself such a bag for documents on ebay.com, only in black.
Quite comfortable and roomy.
In my opinion, documents should not be stored in a car under any circumstances.
Fliero 01 Feb 2014
Not a bad bag.
I have a folder for documents, and for my license I have a wallet, everything is stored in it, I completely agree about what to store in the car.
Boomauto 01 Feb 2014
And I don’t use bags for my license, I keep them in the car visor, out of the sun, it’s very convenient and they won’t go anywhere, so I have no reason to worry
Konstantin 01 Feb 2014
Any car owner is not insured against the fact that his car will not be stolen. And creating an additional problem for yourself with the restoration of documents is unwise.
OlegBu 01 Feb 2014
And I don’t use bags for my license, I keep them in the car visor, out of the sun, it’s very convenient and they won’t go anywhere, so I have no reason to worry
Really, why store it in such a stupid place?
Not only can the car be stolen, but also the documents for it, well, this is generally the golden mean for a thief.
Mikki 02 Feb 2014
The point is not where to store it, the point is why store them in order to show them?
Over the last 2 years of driving, I only had to show my ID once; it’s been in my wallet for 2 years and I don’t understand why.
Boomauto 02 Feb 2014
Hmm, but you don’t have to do it every time, but in 2 years I was stopped so many times that I can’t even count, and the ID and documents that I had with me turned out to be very useful.
What documents for a car should you take with you in 2019?
What can you carry?
There was a recent incident in Moscow. The man parked at the store. When he came out, he discovered that his car was no longer there; it had been taken to the impound lot. After paying the fine, he wanted to pick her up, but it turned out to be difficult. All documents were left in the glove compartment of the car. If you don't want to get into this situation, read on.
The other day, one of my friends was stopped by traffic cops. He looked like he had been working only recently. Word by word, it came to document verification. My friend's driver's license and insurance were fine. Suddenly the traffic cop asked him for his PTS.
I did not have this document with me. The traffic police officer wanted to make a remark, but at that moment his more experienced colleague approached. It turned out that according to the new rules, it is not at all necessary to carry a vehicle with you. You also do not need to take the car purchase and sale agreement with you.
So that you have fewer questions, I decided to write this article.
Likewise, you no longer need to carry a power of attorney with you. If you give someone a car, then information about this person must be included in the OSAGO or CASCO policy.
The power of attorney was a completely meaningless document. It didn't even need to be notarized. It could be compiled by hand on any sheet of paper. After several million people voted on the Internet for its abolition, amendments were made to the law.
Experts and lawyers have also long proposed to cancel this document. Although if you decide to sell a car with someone else’s help, then a power of attorney will, of course, be needed. Only a notary must draw up and certify it.
You also need a notarized power of attorney if you are traveling abroad in someone else’s car.
Mandatory documents
But the mandatory list of documents has remained virtually unchanged for several years. It includes:
- driver's license;
- vehicle registration certificate;
- insurance policy;
- citizen's passport.
If changes have been made to the vehicle, you must have permission to make those changes. The same applies to the installation of non-standard light or sound devices. If there is no permission to install them, you will receive a fine.
Make sure your driver's license is not expired. Otherwise, you can receive a large fine of 5,000 rubles. In addition, the rights must be of the required category.
The car registration certificate must contain all the data on the car. This document looks like a laminated card that contains the car number, engine number, and owner information. This document confirms that the car belongs to you.
If you don’t have the certificate with you, the traffic police may think that you stole it. They will have to detain you, and the car will be sent to the impound lot until all the circumstances are clarified.
By the way, only its owner or a person who has a notarized power of attorney to perform these actions can pick up a car from a impound lot.
Taxi documents
If you transport passengers and charge money for it, you must have additional documents with you. A license to transport passengers is required.
The car must also contain instructions and rules for transportation.
Documents for truck drivers:
If you are transporting any cargo, you must have a waybill for this route. You must also have documents for this cargo.
If you are transporting dangerous or large cargo, you must have transportation permits with you.
In addition, you must have your personal tachograph card with you.
Responsibility
If you do not have the required documents, you may receive a serious fine. If you forget your license at home, you may receive a fine of 500 rubles. If you do not have an MTPL policy with you, then you can also receive a fine of 500 rubles.
When you transfer the car to another person who does not have a license, the fine will increase to 3,000 rubles.
And soon these fines may increase even more. Recently, the State Duma proposed to imprison people for 4 years for driving without a license.
In addition, for driving without the necessary documents, the car can be taken to the impound lot. To pick it up from there you will have to spend a lot of time and effort. In addition, you will need to pay additionally for the time the car is in the parking lot.
If you find yourself in a similar situation, try to negotiate with the inspector to bring documents from home and show them to him. You will need to have time to bring them before the tow truck arrives.
You do not need to bring a medical certificate with you. The certificate should only be taken by those who have health limitations. For example, if you have vision problems.
How to claim your rights
If you are stopped by a traffic police officer, open your side window after stopping. After this, the inspector will have to introduce himself to you and explain the reason for the stop.
Communication should be polite, you should also respond politely. Upon first request, you must present the documents in expanded form. Don't swear or get nervous during communication. Remember that you are not required to get out of the car.
Sometimes the inspector offers to go into his car. Remember that this is your right, not your responsibility. You can refuse and remain in the car.
Questions and answers
Evgeniy
Recently bought a car under a sales contract. The previous owner did not deregister it. Do I need to carry the contract with me to prove that it is my car?
Alexander
Recently broke the rules and I was given a fine. I paid for it, I still have a receipt. How long do I need to carry it with me?
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I purchased a car on lease to a legal entity in Moscow, but I need to drive it to Tomsk, Leasing Company (hereinafter LC), the original PTS does not give me the only copy certified by a representative of LC and, accordingly, all contracts and acts. Can I move around the country for up to 10 days under a leasing agreement, transfer and acceptance certificates and a copy of the title?
Yes, you can travel with these documents for 10 days. Just be sure to take out an insurance policy for yourself; the employees will also ask for it when they stop you.
Do I need to take a diagnostic card with me?
No, this document can be kept at home
Have you heard that since 2018, the driver is required to present a medical certificate to the traffic police inspector?
These are just rumors, a medical certificate is only needed when you change your license.
The driver's license says glasses are required. If I have contact lenses or have had surgery, what about my license?
It is best to make new licenses that do not have this mark. Submit an application on the government services website for a replacement license, go to the doctors, the ophthalmologist will write on the certificate that you have good eyesight and this mark will not be on your new license. Or you will have to explain to employees every time that you have lenses or have had surgery. If a fine is issued, you can always appeal it, based on documents about eye surgery. Choose what is most convenient for you
What if two or more people use the car, what about the registration certificate? Is it possible to make a copy?
The vehicle certificate is issued in one copy. It must be transferred to a different driver each time. You can carry your insurance and certificate in your car, for example in the glove compartment.
I bought a car, what documents do I need to carry with me for 10 days until I re-register it in my name?
PTS and purchase and sale agreement, which will include the date of purchase.
Do I need to show my passport to the traffic police inspector?
No, you need to show your vehicle registration certificate, insurance and driver's license.
I drive a car owned by my father. I'm included in the insurance. Today I was stopped by traffic police officers. They asked for a registration certificate, but I didn’t have one because I’m not the owner. Should I carry with me a registration certificate that is not issued to me?
Yes, they should. Your father must give it to you every time he hands you a car.
What to do with a power of attorney if compulsory motor liability insurance is registered without restrictions (open insurance)?
If you have an extended compulsory motor liability insurance policy that does not include drivers, then you can transfer the car to any person. Just make sure he has a valid driver's license.
Do I need to take my vehicle with me? Fine for driving without a license. What documents do you need to take with you?
Many drivers are interested in whether they need to carry a vehicle license with them. This document plays a huge role. It must be stored so as not to be lost. But not all drivers are aware of what documents they are required to have when driving a vehicle. There are a number of mandatory and optional papers. In the first case, there will be punishment for lack of documentation, in the second, nothing will happen. So what can we say about PTS? And what is driving without documents called in Russia?
What is PTS car? This document is a paper that contains basic information about the vehicle. You could say this is the official description of the car.
As a rule, a PTS is required when registering a car with the traffic police. If it is lost, a duplicate will be issued. This event causes a lot of trouble. Ordinary copies of a passport for a car are not accepted anywhere. But do you need to take the paper you are studying with you?
Some people believe that it all depends on the situation. Do I need to take my vehicle with me?
When purchasing new vehicles, sellers sometimes provide copies of the paper being studied. As we already said, you cannot use them. The traffic police do not accept copies of PTS. And it simply doesn’t make sense to carry such documents with you.
Such an act results in driving without license plates. And this is a serious violation, entailing fines and other sanctions.
Duty or right
Do I need to take my vehicle with me? Answering this question may not be so easy. Especially when you consider that the real picture often differs from the theoretical one.
The driver must keep and protect the title for the car, as we have already emphasized. If a vehicle is stolen, you can easily lose such paper.
By law, the owner is not required to carry a passport with him to the car. At least if he has license plates on the vehicle. The law allows you to avoid a fine for driving without a license. There is no such sanction in principle.
OSAGO and PTS
The paper being studied must be presented when applying for car insurance. The MTPL policy for duplicates is not renewed. Established rules prohibit modern drivers from driving without insurance. If this happens, you will have to suffer some punishment. And the title of the car will indirectly influence the sanctions. In particular, if the absence of this paper prevented the renewal of insurance.
In 2017, a citizen will have to pay only 800 rubles for driving a car without an MTPL policy. But it’s better to worry about restoring your car’s passport in advance. Then even such sanctions can be avoided without much difficulty.
PTS and mandatory registration
Do I need to take my vehicle with me? As we have already found out, no. Is it even necessary to draw up such paper?
Yes. It is impossible to do without it. The law does not oblige drivers to carry such documentation with them, but in principle they will have to have it. Without a title, you cannot register a car, obtain license plates, or make legally significant transactions.
In all this, you will have to use only the original document or its duplicate with the appropriate marking. Ordinary copies (even if certified) have no legal force.
Documents for the driver
Nevertheless, every modern driver must have a certain package of documents with him. Otherwise, he will face one punishment or another. It is directly dependent on the forgotten document.
What should every driver have? What documents do you need to take with you? These include:
- driver's license;
- car registration certificate;
- OSAGO policy;
- passport.
It is prohibited to drive without these documents. But the list of required documents does not end there. In exceptional cases, you have to take additional certificates and extracts with you.
Additionally
To avoid driving without documents for a car, you will have to carefully study the current legislation of the Russian Federation. The previously listed list of papers is ideal for individuals. But there are exceptions.
Additionally, you must have with you:
- cargo documents - when transporting goods;
- license - for transporting people;
- instructions and rules for transporting the population;
- waybill - for trucks;
- transportation permits - when transporting dangerous and large cargo.
In addition, you will have to carry your personal tachograph card with you. These papers are attached to the main list of required documents. In real life, drivers working for transport companies take a responsible approach to preparing travel documents. Therefore, we will not consider punishments for them.
A vehicle title is a document that every driver should have, but you don’t have to carry it with you. It is better to keep your car passport in a secluded place at home. Traffic police officers do not have the right to demand this paper.
Driving without documents for a car, as we have already said, is punished to varying degrees. It all depends on what exactly is forgotten.
Let's start with the most common scenario - the lack of a driver's license. If it is forgotten at home, you will only have to pay 500 rubles in fine. The absence of a driver's license is, in principle, punishable by payments ranging from 5 to 15 thousand rubles.
If you violate it again, you will have to pay 30,000 rubles or spend up to 15 days under arrest. Or accept correctional labor (up to 200 hours maximum).
Not covered by insurance
Do I need to take my vehicle with me? No. But you will have to have your MTPL insurance policy with you. A power of attorney to drive a car is not required.
Instead, the citizen must be included in the insurance. If the trustee is not included in the compulsory motor liability insurance, you will have to pay a fine. It is only 500 rubles.
Registration
A car title is required when making transactions with a car. But you don’t need to take such a certificate with you to drive a car.
But there must be a certificate of registration of the car. It is included in the list of mandatory papers required when driving a car. What happens if you forget STS or don’t have it at all?
In the first case, you can get off with a fine of 500 rubles. Additionally, the vehicle has the right to be detained until the circumstances of the violation are clarified.
Is there no STS at all? For the first 10 days after purchasing a car, you can do without this paper. Further, driving a vehicle will be punishable by payments ranging from 300 to 800 rubles. The exception is cases of driving with transit license plates. Such cars may not be registered for up to 20 days.
Conclusion
Do I need a title for a car? Yes. But the driver can carry this paper with him if he wishes. And there is no need to present it to traffic police officers. They have no right to demand PTS. But the STS must be presented without fail.
In fact, remembering all the listed rules is easy. As well as punishments for certain violations. In practice, forgotten documents often cause a lot of trouble. Traffic police officers can accommodate you and give you time to present the forgotten paper. Usually they wait up to half an hour. During this time, someone (or the driver himself, leaving the car with the traffic police) must bring the forgotten paper.
Can you be fined in Russia for not having a PTS? No. Such a sanction does not exist in nature. If a document has been lost or stolen, you need to restore it. To do this, you need to contact the traffic police, where the car was registered, with a statement about the loss of the passport for the car. On average, it takes a month to issue a duplicate. Especially if there is suspicion of paper theft.
Where to store documents for a car
Arkady, well, I’m tempted to steal your car: D
Roland, I know your attitude towards the German automobile industry in all its forms.
but I don’t share it:p And in my opinion, we switched to you a long time ago?
And in the case of an insurance policy without restrictions, what documents confirm the right to travel by car?
That is, you assume that the thief, before stealing someone else’s car, will familiarize himself with the contents of the MTPL policy?
You started about the hijacker)
They are no longer needed. Enrolled in OSAGO and forward
And you are right - I consulted. Now it’s enough just to have a document for a car..where is this world heading. )))
What should I explain? It’s been a couple of years since the mandatory handwritten powers of attorney for driving someone else’s car was abolished in the Russian Federation.
It takes Roland an hour or two to restore documents if there is some positive attitude from the traffic police. I see the problem of storing documents in a car is that the thief, having left by car, has a document from her, to which he writes a handwritten power of attorney. Drive in all four directions. until the owner comes to his senses.
Nowadays you don’t need a power of attorney, if the car has a PTS, God forbid, then the purchase and sale agreement is written by hand, and the sale of the car is also written by hand in the PTS and that’s it, you are tormented to prove that you didn’t sell the car, moreover, the local traffic police based on this contract can also re-register the car "
then the purchase and sale agreement is written by hand
A little different. Any signed Sales and Purchase Agreement does not imply the transfer of money.
Between two individuals this is confirmed only by a receipt written in simple written form
It’s just that few people know this, but it will play a role in court
I understand, Arkady. But if the car was stolen, I don’t think it makes much difference whether there were documents in it or not.
After consultation with the insurance company, if the car left with documents, it is possible to get comprehensive insurance, but through the court and with hemorrhoids.
(except for robbery, of course) That’s the first difference)
Now I carry the MTPL policy (or rather a copy of it) with me along with the documents for the car. A copy is not a document.
You can take a photo with your phone - the same thing. As a result, you can achieve your goal, i.e. either the traffic police violated the law by issuing you papers without compulsory motor liability insurance, or violated it by not issuing it.
After consultation with the insurance company, if the car left with documents, what specific documents are we talking about? Is PTS not enough?
I throw it in the back seat instead of a clutch. They don't steal the jacket)))
In vain. Any item (even a jacket) can attract attention.
Any item in the car can attract attention, bag(s), grocery bags, briefcase, folder, jacket, fur coat, musical instrument cases, etc.
Items can be stolen by simply breaking glass and tripping the alarm. If you have to leave the car somewhere for a minute with items that are dear to you, stop in advance and put the items in the trunk. It is better to carry large sums of money separately from small sums; do not show loose cash in public, no matter how cool you look with it. Documents and money are only separated.
