How to get a title for a motorcycle without documents
How to register a motorcycle
A motorcycle, like a car, is not a luxury, but also not just a means of transportation. For many, it is a lifestyle and a symbol of freedom. And seeing the prices for brand new bikes or cruisers, we understand that we are not paying for two wheels and an engine, but for the sensations that they will give us. As an alternative to expensive offers from salons, used models that are sold on bulletin boards, or rare pieces that were given in memory of a grandfather, come to the rescue. In any case, the dream becomes more real, and the feeling of freedom is separated by one question: “how to register a used motorcycle without wasting time and nerves?”
The procedure is not much different from registering a car. Here you also need to meet the 10-day deadline from the date of purchase.
- Pass inspection.
- Get OSAGO.
- Pay duties.
- Register the vehicle with the State Traffic Safety Inspectorate (for this you need: the original OSAGO, technical passport, application, receipts for payment of duties, owner’s passport, papers confirming the ownership of the vehicle).
But what if the model being sold does not have a registration certificate? Is it possible to register a bike without documents? Yes, and it won't take much time either.
The procedure for registering motorcycles with the traffic police without documents
First, you should prepare for a trip to the State Traffic Inspectorate. If you are buying an old Harley or classic without documents, pay special attention to the purchase agreement. In addition to the passport and contact information of the seller and buyer, it must contain detailed descriptions of the transport characteristics: make, model, year of manufacture, engine number, body number (if possible), as well as color, engine size, etc.
It is recommended to acquire such papers as a receipt for receipt of money and an explanatory statement from the selling party about the reasons for the lack of a registration certificate.
It is enough to provide a signed purchase and sale agreement and an application requesting the issuance of a vehicle title and license plates.
What to do if the traffic police refuses to register a motorcycle without documents?
In this case, you need to receive a written refusal with which you will go to court. Attach a copy of the refusal along with a copy of your application for receiving documents to the statement of claim.
Most often, the court makes a positive decision in such situations, which also plays into the hands of State Traffic Inspectorate employees, who will now officially be able to confirm the legality of issuing you a registration certificate and license plates.
Is it possible to register a bike if the owner is deceased?
If you are haunted by the old Izh or Ural, unfairly gathering dust in your grandfather’s garage, why not give the technology a second chance? Yes, retro equipment also has a place on the track, but only after registration.
If the owner of the vehicle is not alive, there are two options for the development of events:
- You can officially re-register the vehicle in the name of one of the heirs. In this case, there must be a notarized document confirming the inheritance of the property. With it, you can go to the State Traffic Inspectorate office, where the rarity was registered, and re-register the vehicle to the heir.
- If the owner has no heirs, then the vehicle is the property of the state. In this case, contact the regional branch of the Rosimushchestvo agency. After they accept the vehicle for balance, you can officially buy and register the bike in your name.
Registration of homemade motor vehicles in Russia
If your design talent allowed you to make an exclusive model, you can also legally drive it after registration.
“How to design a homemade motorcycle” is a fairly popular question in Russia, because the creation of custom bikes here has already become a separate culture. If you do not want to leave your homemade motorcycle vehicle without a registration certificate, you need to take care of this from the first day of assembly.
Keep the papers confirming the purchase of all units (motor, frame, forward flow on a motorcycle, etc.). If you purchased these items in Russia, it is enough to have a purchase and sale agreement; if they were imported, a customs declaration is required.
Is it possible to register a homemade custom build? Yes, and it only takes 3 steps:
- Contact the government organization NAMI to order a VIN number. To do this, provide a scanned copy of your passport, 2 photographs of the vehicle and an application for a VIN in person or by email.
- Having become the owner of a unique VIN, you must prove the safety of the assembly. To do this, leave an application in an officially accredited laboratory, which, after testing, issues a certificate of design safety. In addition to the bike itself, the laboratory will need a scanned copy of your passport, an application, a certificate of receipt of the VIN and a technical description of the vehicle.
- Having successfully completed the first two stages, you need to add to the received certificates the saved evidence of the legal purchase of the units, a copy of your passport, an MTPL insurance policy, pay the state fee and go to the traffic police directly to register your homemade bike.
Knowing how to register motorcycles without documents, you can confidently move towards your dream. Follow the instructions, and paperwork will not become an obstacle to the fulfillment of your desires.
How to register a motorcycle if you don’t have a title and other documents
For a motorcycle, registration is no different from a similar procedure for any other means of transportation. The traffic police will require supporting documents, but what to do if there is nothing, how to register a motorcycle without documents? The way out of the situation will depend on the circumstances under which the current owner ended up with this car. If an iron horse is found in the bushes, there will be one algorithm of action; if you buy it secondhand, there will be another.
Sold without title
A potential buyer comes to inspect the bike he likes, but it turns out that the seller has no title, no STS, no insurance. If the price and external condition are satisfactory, the person who comes for the inspection is faced with the task of whether it will be possible to register the motorcycle without documents.
To solve this, it is worth documenting:
- The main confirmation is the purchase and sale agreement.
- A receipt for funds received under the above agreement.
- An explanatory note from the seller about how the sold vehicle came into his possession.
Specify in the contract:
- Full name, series and passport number of the seller and buyer date of birth;
- everything about the motorcycle - make, model, color and year of manufacture, as well as identification data (chassis, engine, body numbers);
- price;
- date and place (locality) of compilation;
- agreement with the terms - signatures.
It is better to supplement the standardized format with signatures of witnesses.
If the contract is supplemented with the signatures of witnesses to the transaction, it is better that these are not friends of the buyer, but persons from the seller’s side.
It is better to entrust the certificate of the transaction to people associated with the seller for two reasons: it is more reliable and in the event of a lawsuit being initiated, friends will not have to answer for false information. Suddenly the seller stole the bike, decided to sell it, and then the witnesses might have problems. In any case, a written contract, even without third parties, serves as a guarantee of the buyer’s good faith.
A receipt for receipt of money is required to confirm that the transaction has been completed. An explanation from a person selling a motorcycle without a title is also needed to cover the buyer’s “rear.” In case of misunderstandings with traffic police officers, if suddenly the vehicle is wanted. The most common reason is that it was given as a gift or left as an inheritance. Legal documents may be lost or damaged (burned, accidentally dropped into a washing machine, etc.)
If there is a purchase and sale agreement, an explanatory note and a receipt, the buyer receives the status of a “bona fide purchaser”.
To drive on Russian roads, you need to obtain a PTS, for which you need to come to the traffic police with this kit. To issue a passport for a motorcycle, any certificate of receipt of the vehicle legally will be suitable, as well as a purchase and sale agreement will be suitable.
Write an application, indicating your full name, series and number of the passport, technical characteristics of the purchased motorcycle and demand to receive:
- vehicle passports;
- state signs.
In case of refusal, require written justification and send the claim to court, paying the state fee in advance.
Most likely, it will be declared invalid, then with a court decision, come to the traffic police authorities to receive the STS and PTS. Employees will cooperate in this case, since if there is a court decision, they are relieved of responsibility for unlawful actions. In the event of an inspection, the person who issued the passport for the vehicle by decision of the judge will not face anything.
There is a title, but there is no owner
If the motorcycle you like has a passport, but the owner died long ago, registering a motorcycle without documents becomes a problem. First of all, these same legal documents must be obtained with the help of the heirs. If they received an inheritance of property (any: apartment, car, dacha, bank account), then they can obtain re-registration of the vehicle.
- Receive confirmation from a notary that the heirs have taken ownership of any property.
- Apply the paper and the heir to the traffic police (where the motorcycle is registered) and apply for registration in the name of the heir.
- Now the heir will be able to draw up a purchase and sale agreement, remove the bike from registration, and the buyer will register it in his name.
If the heirs do not want to waste time, but are ready to transfer powers, draw up a general power of attorney with a notary, which includes actions to register the vehicle in their name, deregister the vehicle and subsequent sale transaction.
If there are heirs of the deceased owner under the title, re-register the motorcycle in their name and then buy it.
It will be more difficult to register a motorcycle without documents if the owner has died and there are no heirs. Then the state acts as the owner. You can contact the administration, property relations management department. This must be done at the place of registration of the vehicle.
There are two options for purchasing motorcycles:
- the administration lists the motorcycle as movable property and then sells it;
- through scrap metal.
The second option involves transferring the full amount for “scrap metal” to the administration, to their account, and subsequent redemption of the motorcycle from the collection point. When purchasing, indicate in the application “I am purchasing scrap metal in the form of a motorcycle.”
A description of detailed characteristics is required: brand, color and year, body numbers, engine, chassis. As a result, you will receive a check or a sales contract (the scrap metal collection department appears as the seller). Take the papers to the local traffic police department, on this basis a vehicle passport can already be issued.
Find or homemade
Let’s say a motorcycle is found in the bushes or in a ravine, and the task is: how to register an ownerless motorcycle without documents in your name.
The Civil Code of the Russian Federation dictates the following procedure:
- Contact the local police department and report the find in writing, describing in detail the appearance and technical characteristics. Indicate that the vehicle is with you, write the address so that the owner, if found, can contact you. Receive a copy of your application with the date of acceptance.
- If no one contacts you, after 6 months write a statement to the Department of Internal Affairs again to clarify whether the owner of the found property has contacted you. Keep a copy for yourself with an acceptance mark.
- Receive a written response from the authorities to the second application.
- File a claim in court at the place of residence, demand recognition of the person who found the owner of the motorcycle under Article 228 of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation (if no one has declared their ownership in six months, the owner will be the one who found).
If the owner applies for a motorcycle, you can demand compensation for storage costs.
If you assemble the motorcycle yourself, then you will have to spend a lot of time and money to obtain a title.
At the design stage, follow the rules:
- UNECE;
- GOST
Apply to Rosstandart for approval of the vehicle and obtain a certificate. Be tested in traffic police laboratories designated for testing or licensed service points.
To do this, provide:
- assembled invention;
- certificate of vehicle type approval;
- indicate the characteristics by which the invention is considered a motorcycle;
- documented description of the invention (including its technical characteristics);
- if the motorcycle was created taking into account an existing brand, type - describe what distinguishes it from the basic design.
After successfully passing the tests, the supporting document is sent to Rosstandart, and a certificate is issued on its basis. After this, contact the traffic police to register the vehicle and obtain a passport for the vehicle.
Features of the procedure
The answer to the question of how to obtain a title for a purchased/found/assembled motorcycle without documents lies in the fact that these same papers still need to be obtained.
In different cases - different solutions:
- when purchasing without a title, take all explanatory notes from the seller and draw up a purchase and sale agreement in writing;
- if the owner of the motorcycle died, but there are heirs, buy through them; if not, through the local administration;
- report the found vehicle to the police, find out the result in six months and, if no one is looking for it, file a lawsuit against yourself;
- an independent invention must be registered through Rosstandart and tested in traffic police laboratories.
Difficulties with registering a motorcycle may also arise if the parts installed at the factory have been changed to others and problems arise with identifying it in the vehicle title. The algorithm of actions will be similar to licensing a homemade invention.
Obtaining a title for a motorcycle purchased without documents
Hello, can I purchase a motorcycle without documents and then get a title for it? I found some information about this on the net, is it valid?
1) It is necessary to sign an agreement with the seller, at least in simple written form: I, Ivan Ivanovich Ivanov, date and year of birth, living there, passport number such and such, issued there and then sold to Sidrov Sidor Sidorovich, date and year birth, living there, passport such and such number, issued there such and then that, car (motorcycle) brand such and such, model such and such, year of manufacture, engine number such and such (or “not installed”, or “without number "), chassis number is such and such, body number is such and such, color is such and such, for the agreed amount of so many rubles. Signatures. Date of. Place of compilation (city, village). It would be very good if the witness of this transaction signed the Agreement below. The best thing is that it is some kind of relative or neighbor of the seller.
All. You've already covered your ass if something happens. And a plus: you are now (from the moment of signing this simple, but, Agreement) the legal owner of your rarity. You should always make such an agreement. Definitely. And not doing it is the height of frivolity.
In addition to the Agreement, you can take a “Receipt for receipt of money under the contract for the sale and purchase of such and such a car.”
Additionally, you can take an “Explanatory” in which the seller would indicate where he got this device from. Usually they write that the father (grandfather) gave it (or left it as an inheritance). Also, let the seller point out: there were no documents (or they were lost, burned, or drowned). Now you are also a “bona fide purchaser”.
2) Next, if you want to drive your vintage car or motorcycle, you can try to get a PTS from the traffic police. The traffic police has an old instruction that says: “The basis for issuing a registration certificate is ANY document on the legality of purchasing a vehicle.” And since you now have the document “Purchase and Sale Agreement”, drawn up and signed in accordance with the Civil Code of the Russian Federation, you submit an Application to the traffic police at your place of residence - “I am the owner of such and such a car (or motorcycle), I ask you to issue me a title and state license plates. Attached is a copy of the car purchase and sale agreement.”
Next there will be two options (this depends only on the legal literacy of traffic police officers):
— you are given a brand new PTS;
- you will be illegally refused to issue a PTS.
If they refuse, be sure to get a written refusal! And go to court at your place of residence. And write a statement of claim to the court: “The Constitution guarantees citizens freedom of movement. And an official at the traffic police refuses me this right - he doesn’t give me a PTS, which gives me the right to drive a vehicle that belongs to me across the expanses of our vast country! I ask the court to oblige the traffic police to comply with the Constitution of the Russian Federation and issue me a title for my vehicle.” Attach a copy of your application to the traffic police for the issuance of a PTS and a copy of the traffic police refusal. Pay the fee (it's small).
The court usually makes a positive decision. The traffic police department is usually happy with the court decision - because Now the employees of the traffic police department have something to justify themselves about the PTS issued to you, in the event of an inspection of the traffic police department by a higher authority.
They gave me a motorcycle without documents. How to register it?
I was given a motorcycle without any documents. I came for a consultation at the traffic police, they said that there would be no problems. The motorcycle was not registered, was not involved in an accident, and was not listed as stolen. PTS was restored through customs.
Since in fact and according to documents I am the first owner of the motorcycle, I needed a seal and signature from the store. And this is where the problems began. The store closed 4 years ago due to bankruptcy. I had a hard time finding his former owner. She agreed to put a seal, which they did not have time to destroy, and a signature. But it was not possible to obtain either a purchase and sale agreement or any other papers from her: she lives eight thousand kilometers from me.
Can you advise what I should do? I would like to legally register a motorcycle, since doing it illegally is very expensive. Thank you.
Best regards,
Stanislav
Stanislav, in your case, you will most likely have to establish ownership through the court. There is a high probability that the traffic police will refuse to register the motorcycle in your name, since there are no documents that would confirm the transfer of ownership from the store to you.
Bankruptcy of a store may also be grounds for refusal of registration.
Let's figure it out in order.
From a legal point of view
The fact that you do not have a purchase and sale agreement is not the main problem. Judging by the documents, the motorcycle is still owned by the bankrupt store. The PTS contains all the necessary stamps and signatures about this.
At the same time, the store went bankrupt 4 years ago. How his property was disposed of and whether there are other claimants to it besides you is unknown.
Even if you manage to come to an agreement with the landlady and draw up a retroactive purchase and sale agreement, it is not a fact that this will solve the problem.
Any transaction made by the debtor or on behalf of the debtor can be challenged. Perhaps this is why the owner of the bankrupt store is in no hurry to draw up a purchase and sale agreement for you. Otherwise, she will have to answer to creditors or to the budget - this is if the store still has tax debts. So, without knowing all the details of this bankruptcy, it is difficult to give advice and make predictions.
Since the store is the owner of the motorcycle, the former owner has a chance to return the motorcycle to herself if she wants to do so.
From the point of view of the traffic police
Traffic police officers have every right to refuse to register your motorcycle.
They are guided by Order of the Ministry of Internal Affairs No. 399 “On approval of the rules for state registration of motor vehicles.” Paragraph 3 of these rules lists the grounds on which registration can be refused. One of these grounds is the presence of information about the termination of the activities of a legal entity or individual entrepreneur acting as the owner of the motorcycle.
Another document is Order of the Ministry of Internal Affairs No. 605 “On approval of the administrative regulations of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation for the provision of state services for registration of motor vehicles.” It contains a comprehensive list of documents required for registration of motor vehicles. Among them is a purchase and sale agreement. Without it, you will not be able to register your motorcycle.
What should you do
I do not recommend forging a purchase and sale agreement. In your case, this will not be a crime, but forging a signature in an agreement is a risk: such an agreement is easy to challenge. You cannot know how honest the owner of a bankrupt auto store is and what plans she has for the motorcycle. She signed and sealed the PTS, but refused to draw up a purchase and sale agreement. Although I don’t see any technical obstacles to this: the contract can be filled out and sent by mail, if desired. Eight thousand kilometers is still not an insurmountable obstacle to sending documents in 2019.
Try to negotiate with the owner of the bankrupt store to draw up a purchase and sale agreement. Perhaps someone will want to challenge it, but this is not a fact. This is the least expensive option - and the safest for you.
If the store owner refuses, I recommend contacting a lawyer who will study all the available documents. Not a single article in T—J can replace the advice of a professional lawyer. In your situation, everything is important: the date the PTS was drawn up, what signatures were affixed there, when the store went bankrupt.
It is likely that the lawyer will suggest that you establish the fact of ownership of the motorcycle through the court. In this case, the store owner may not act as a defendant, but as a witness. You may have to bring in the person who gave you the motorcycle as a witness. It is important who exactly gave you the motorcycle, how the donation was formalized, and whether it was formalized at all.
Assess the possible costs of legal fees and attorney fees for participation in the trial. If they exceed the cost of the motorcycle, consider selling it without registering it with the traffic police. Unregistered motor vehicles are in demand among resellers, although their prices are lower than market prices.
What are the guarantees that it will be possible to prove ownership of a motorcycle through the court?
There are no guarantees. The court will consider your specific case, with all its features. Write to us later how it all ended.
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For a motorcycle, registration is no different from a similar procedure for any other means of transportation. The traffic police will require supporting documents, but what to do if there is nothing, how to register a motorcycle without documents? The way out of the situation will depend on the circumstances under which the current owner ended up with this car. A potential buyer comes to inspect the bike he likes, but it turns out that the seller has no title, no STS, no insurance. If the price and external condition are satisfactory, the person who comes for the inspection is faced with the task of whether it will be possible to register the motorcycle without documents. If the contract is supplemented with the signatures of witnesses to the transaction, it is better that these are not friends of the buyer, but persons from the seller’s side. It is better to entrust the certificate of the transaction to people associated with the seller for two reasons: it is more reliable and in the event of a lawsuit being initiated, friends will not have to answer for false information.
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