Fine for knocking down a road sign
What is the fine for knocking down a sign or traffic light?
Any sign installed on a road where cars and other types of transport drive is an object of road infrastructure. Therefore, everyone who violates its integrity, spoils it, or completely knocks it down, according to the law, must bear administrative liability. According to the Code of Administrative Offences, for such a violation you can lose a fairly large sum to pay off the fine. In addition, as a result of such an accident (and this is exactly what it is), the infrastructure facility incurs a material loss, which, in accordance with the provisions of the law, must be paid. It is from this that the consequences follow when the culprit car owner decided to leave the scene of the accident without permission. Next, we will describe in detail the procedure for action in such a situation and the amount of the penalty for this violation.
Procedure if a car owner demolishes a sign on a car
It doesn’t matter which road infrastructure sign you hit, in any case it will be considered an accident. This also follows from the very concept of this abbreviation:
A road traffic accident means a situation that occurred while a vehicle was moving along a public road and with its participation, as a result of which someone was injured or even died, the vehicle itself was damaged, and not necessarily the culprit of the accident, as well as any structure. , cargo or material loss has occurred.
Since all road signs are owned by the municipal structure, in the event of small or large-scale damage, material damage is caused. And as a result of this, the car owner who has run over or completely knocked down an object is obliged to answer for this by law in accordance with paragraph 2.6.1 of the Traffic Regulations. According to this provision, he must also call the traffic police officers. But this should only be done if the sign itself has suffered significant damage. If no material damage has been caused, then there is no need to call the police and you can safely go to the scene of the incident.
If the car owner knocked down a sign and disappeared without permission
If you hit or completely knocked down a road sign and quickly fled the scene of the accident, this action will be considered by law as leaving the scene of an accident, for which your driver’s license will be confiscated for 12 to 18 months or you will be taken into custody. for 15 days. Before this, in accordance with Article 12.27 of the Code of Administrative Offenses of the Russian Federation, Part 2, a protocol will be drawn up.
In addition, such behavior will negatively affect the process of settling losses. We will describe this in detail later in the article.
What is the penalty for shooting down an infrastructure item?
It doesn’t matter whether you knocked down an object of infrastructure accidentally or intentionally in 2019, a fairly large fine will be charged for this. And the whole point is that in paragraph 1.5 of the Traffic Regulations, Part 2, it is strictly prohibited for car owners to cause damage in any possible way to the means that ensure traffic order on public roads, and thereby interfere with other drivers.
As soon as a road sign is damaged, the danger of traffic immediately increases, according to the legislator. If such a situation arises, the car owner is obliged to take all possible measures so that other drivers are not in danger due to the lack of the required sign. If you can’t do anything for this yourself, then you need to inform other road users as soon as possible.
Moreover, if you knocked down or ran over a sign and it was damaged, and you took all the measures provided by law, then the very fact of what you did will still be equated to an offense.
The amount of the fine is clearly stated in Article 12.33 of the Code of Administrative Offenses of the Russian Federation. As of 2019, this is 5 thousand - 10 thousand rubles. But compared to the withdrawal of rights for a long period when leaving the scene of an accident, this seems like a small thing.
Who will pay for damages?
The money for repairing the road sign is paid either by the car owner himself - the offender or by the insurance institution.
We wrote earlier that damage to a road sign is perceived as an accident only if it causes a real material loss. For example, if after an incident it is necessary to replace it with a new support. In this case, it is clear that the damage was caused to municipal property and city infrastructure.
The injured party in most cases is the relevant department of the city administration. For example, in MSC this is the “Organization Center for DD of the Moscow Government.” In her favor, Muscovites must compensate for the losses caused.
However, for this to happen, three conditions must be met:
- The car owner must have a valid MTPL insurance policy.
- The car owner must immediately call the State Traffic Safety Inspectorate immediately after the incident, whose employees will draw up a report.
- The car owner must not be under the influence of alcohol or drugs.
What if the car owner was drunk or fled the scene?
If the car owner ran into a road sign or knocked it down while under the influence of an alcoholic drink or fled the scene without waiting for the inspectors, the insurance institution will still compensate the loss to the city, but then through the court it will oblige the offender to pay it the same amount. This point is spelled out in Article 14 of Federal Law No. 40 “On Compulsory Motor Liability Insurance”.
What if the car owner did not take out MTPL insurance?
If the car owner did not have a valid insurance policy at the time of the collision with the road sign, then he will have to pay money out of his own pocket to compensate the city for the damage. This point is provided for in Article 1064 of the Civil Code. If he lets the situation take its course, then the money will be collected from him through the court.
The amount of loss in each case is determined individually. For this purpose, the estimate calculation of the specialized institution is used. In some situations, additional repairs will be enough, while in others you will need to install a new support for the road sign. In the second case, the amount of loss may reach 7–10 thousand rubles. depending on the city. For example, in Vladivostok, at the end of 2017, installing a support along with a new sign cost 7.5 thousand rubles.
What if the damage is to other city property?
As for damage to other city property, the consequences for the offender will be similar, but of course the object of damage itself plays an important role. What a car owner can cause damage to can be divided into city infrastructure facilities and technical means of organizing traffic.
In addition to road signs, technical equipment includes:
- Traffic light knocked down in an accident.
- Traffic light column.
- Remote control panel.
- Road controller.
- Communications cabinet.
- Individual design shield and everything else involved in organizing the DD.
Thus, damage to all these objects entails a threat to road safety, and therefore car owners will also have to spend money on paying a fine in accordance with Article 12.33 of the Code of Administrative Offenses of the Russian Federation.
City infrastructure facilities include:
- Flashlight.
- Noise shield.
- Power line pole.
- Advertising pole.
- Fence, fencing.
- Wood, etc.
Since all of these are not participants in traffic restrictions on the road, a fine for hitting the listed objects is not established. However, this does not mean that there was no accident. Material loss has occurred, so calling the police is mandatory. If all of the above conditions are met, then compensation for the loss will fall on the insurance institution. However, if you do not have a CASCO insurance policy, you will have to repair your vehicle at your own expense.
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Knocked down a road sign and drove away. They deprived me of my license.
gruval80 Jun 07, 2016
V25V 07 Jun 2016
Contact a lawyer and refer to the fact that you simply didn’t notice or hear anything; if the guilt that you deliberately fled the scene of an accident is not proven, then there is no reason to deprive you of your rights. Compensate for the damage and that’s it, there are no casualties.
SEA_KC 07 Jun 2016
If the bumper is intact, why did you confess?
leaving the scene of an accident.
Kukas 07 Jun 2016
And for what deprivation?! One fine, for damage to property, (sign), I still understand that, but what are the rest for? I left the scene of the accident without anyone getting hurt. Nonsense.
gruval80 Jun 07, 2016
psihoz123 07 Jun 2016
gruval80 Jun 07, 2016
Appeal the decision to a higher court. Since there is no second vehicle, why is this an accident?
If necessary, I can ask a lawyer
I was given 10 days for hair removal (I hope I wrote it correctly)
Of course I had to, so I decided to contact us, the Kairon Clan, even if it was for good, so that no one would do it like I did.
psihoz123 07 Jun 2016
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mercury80 Jun 07, 2016
They're fagots. So it’s not in vain that I parted with 10 sput with great sadness. after a vacation, I suddenly found out at 6 am after a night of driving in the rain. that essentially the courtyard road suddenly became one-way. otherwise there are few paid parking lots along the roads (((what the hell is an accident with a sign, and even deprivation. piz..ts.. if only these fucking gophers would tell the Czechs randomly standing at restaurants and the same racers on the cutting edge , and not the hard workers. Creatures. Sorry. It’s boiling, I’m sorry. It’s always like this. You behave like a person and spit in the face, but the asshole doesn’t give a damn.
Chuba 08 Jun 2016
Yep, well, that’s how the traffic cop plans.
gruval80 - no offense, but you did everything to remain without rights.
All the mistakes that could have been made, you made.
Note to everyone:
1. You shouldn’t have walked! Even more so yourself! Especially with a car!
The statute of limitations is 3 months. It was necessary to simply feed them “breakfast” or send a representative without a car.
2. Even if you were somehow taken for analysis, you CANNOT say that you were driving. IT IS FORBIDDEN!
Spin around as you want - either “I don’t remember” or go along 51st. Whatever you want, just don’t say that you were driving at that moment! NEVER!
3. Even if they brought you in to draw up a report, and they have a bunch of witnesses that it was you who was driving, you should bend the line until the last moment, that you simply didn’t notice that there was a touch of the sign.
What can be done in this situation. Don't know. What amount of damage is included in the APN case? Has the amount of damage been determined at all?
For an accident to occur, there must be material damage (or injury). If the amount of damage is not included in the APN case, you can try to challenge the very fact of the accident.
Write something like “during the consideration of the APN case. the amount of material damage was not determined. “- but it’s better to hire a lawyer to draw up an appeal.
Appeal the decision to a higher court. Since there is no second vehicle, why is this an accident?
“Road accident” is an event that occurred during the movement of a vehicle on the road and with its participation, in which people were killed or injured, vehicles, structures, cargo were damaged, or other material damage was caused.
Thus, even if you ran over a person’s leg on a bike and drove away, but his leg is bo-bo, you can get a fine for leaving the scene of an accident.
So it goes. A second vehicle is not necessary at all.
Post edited by Chuba: 08 June 2016 - 01:39
gruval80 08 Jun 2016
What can be done in this situation.
Don't know. What amount of damage is included in the APN case? Has the amount of damage been determined at all? For an accident to occur, there must be material damage (or injury).
The amount of damage is 1.5 thousand rubles, the cost of the bent rack.
We called the person who gives a certificate of damage to the pole, but does not make contact.
The judge said so, if there is no material damage, then I will be free.
In general, I didn’t know that such a situation would happen, so I came to them, knowing that, at least I went to a lawyer.
Post edited by gruval80: 08 June 2016 - 05:21
mercury80 Jun 08, 2016
does not make contact. Maybe there's actually a sign on the stand. so that it would fall from the wind. did people intervene? should I request an examination? How is it that the sign is bent, but the bumper is intact?
Chuba 08 Jun 2016
The amount of damage is 1.5 thousand rubles, the cost of the bent rack.
It's a pity. Of course, running over road signs and driving away is also not very good, but a year in prison for this is a very harsh punishment, which is clearly disproportionate to the damage of 1,500 rubles.
Have the victims already filed a civil lawsuit against you for compensation of 1.5 tr? Who is the victim anyway? Or did the victim contact your insurance company?
Of the remaining options
1. If possible, bring a certificate from your job stating that you work as a driver or that your professional activity is impossible without a driver’s license. A certificate from your wife’s place of work stating that she is on maternity leave will also not hurt.
2. If the owner of the sign has not yet received his 1500, then perhaps it makes sense to pay. If there is no contact, find out the bank details of the organization and send it through the bank, indicating the purpose of the payment “compensation for damage as a result of an accident that occurred. date, time, address."
You should have at least a payment in your hands, and at a maximum a certificate (receipt) stating that the damage has been fully compensated and no one has any claims against you.
3. Apply to the court to replace the deprivation with a fine.
Apply in writing and with reasons . As long as you verbally ask the judge something, you will continue to receive answers like “there is no bidding here.” If there is a written request, the court will be obliged to include it in the case file and give a reasoned answer.
Possible arguments for the petition:
- in connection with the admission of guilt and complete repentance (since you yourself told them everything - at least some benefit must be derived from this)
- due to the inability to perform official duties when deprived of a driver's license, with the subsequent loss of the main source of family income (if there is a certificate from work, and a certificate that the wife is on maternity leave)
- in view of the fact that you are not a persistent violator and over the last N years you have not had fines for violating traffic rules (take a certificate from the traffic police about the absence of other fines).
- in view of full compensation for damage to the victim and the absence of any claims against you.
- and so on, use your imagination.
The application must include a list of attached documents (certificates, receipts, bills).
What is the penalty for knocking down a road sign: fine and consequences?
knocked down the sign what is the penalty
Any road sign, as you might have already guessed, is an object of road infrastructure. Therefore, everyone who knocks him down must be prepared for administrative liability - the Code of Administrative Offenses provides for a large fine for this. Moreover, as a result of such an accident (and this is precisely a traffic accident), material damage is caused to the infrastructure facility, which is subject to compensation by law. This also entails consequences if you leave the scene of the incident. What is the legal penalty for knocking down a sign? And what to do when you get into such an accident and what are the consequences?
Knocked down a sign on a car - what to do?
A collision with any road infrastructure object should be considered an accident. This follows from the very definition of this term provided for by the Traffic Regulations:
A road traffic accident is an event that occurred during the movement of a vehicle on the road and with its participation, in which people were killed or injured, vehicles, structures, cargo were damaged, or other material damage was caused.
A road sign is a public property, and therefore damage to it causes material damage. And this imposes on the driver the responsibilities provided for in paragraph 2.6.1 of the traffic rules. In particular, the obligation to call the traffic police. But only if the sign (or other traffic management object) was actually damaged - if no material damage was caused, the police do not have to be called and the police leave.
If you left the scene of an accident?
If, on the contrary, you knocked down a sign and drove away, then this can already be qualified as leaving the scene of an accident with all the ensuing consequences, in particular, drawing up a protocol under Part 2 of Art. 12.27 Code of Administrative Offenses (deprivation of rights for 1-1.5 years or 15 days of administrative arrest).
Moreover, such behavior may negatively affect the procedure for settling the damage caused, but more on that later.
What are the consequences for knocked down infrastructure objects?
A driver will face a large fine for knocking down a road sign in 2019. The fact is that paragraph 2 of clause 1.5 of the Traffic Regulations prohibits drivers from in any way damaging the means of organizing traffic on the road and thereby impeding the movement of other drivers.
The damaged sign, according to the legislator, poses a threat to traffic safety. In this case, the traffic rules require the driver to do everything possible to eliminate any threats to other drivers associated with the absence of a sign, and if this is not possible, to ensure that other road users are informed.
Please note that “removing threats” does not simply mean removing a fallen metal pole from the road. Although this, of course, too. Traffic safety is understood by traffic rules as a regulated part of the road infrastructure. Literally it looks like this: if you hit a pedestrian crossing sign, be so kind as to ensure that other drivers are informed before the police arrive that there is a zebra crossing in front of them.
But the very fact of colliding with a traffic control device, even if all the duties described above are observed, is an offense.
The fine for knocking down a sign is determined by Article 12.33 of the Administrative Code. In accordance with it, damage to a technical means of organizing a traffic accident threatens the driver with a fine of 5-10 thousand rubles. But this, you see, is nothing compared to the deprivation of rights for leaving the scene of an accident, if you just pick up and leave!
Who will compensate for the damage?
Insurance. Or maybe the driver himself - it all depends on the situation.
We have already indicated above that a knocked down sign is recognized as an accident event only when material damage is caused to the technical equipment of the road traffic organization. For example, if a collision requires the installation of a new support. This obviously causes damage to city infrastructure and municipal property.
The relevant department of the city administration will probably be recognized as the injured party in such an accident. For example, in Moscow this is the State Public Institution “Center for Traffic Management of the Moscow Government”. In favor of such an organization, material damage must be compensated.
If the driver had a valid MTPL policy, there is nothing to worry about - within the limits of the insured amount (400 thousand rubles for material damage), all damage caused by him for a damaged road sign will be covered by insurance.
But 3 conditions must be met:
- availability of valid MTPL insurance,
- the driver’s obligation to call the traffic police and properly register an accident with a knocked down sign,
- the driver was not under the influence of alcohol or drugs.
What if the driver was drunk or drove away?
If during the collision he was drunk or knocked down a sign and drove away, the insurance company will also cover the damage to the city, but in this case it will receive the right of recourse against the culprit - the driver will have to voluntarily or forcibly through the court reimburse the insurance company for the paid insurance amount (Art. 14 Federal Law No. 40 “On OSAGO”).
If you don't have insurance?
In cases where there was no policy, the driver will have to compensate for the property damage caused independently (Article 1064 of the Civil Code). If he does not do this himself, the city will definitely seek all such damages through the courts.
The amount of compensation is determined in each case individually, according to the estimate of the relevant specialized department: in some cases it will be possible to get away with minor repairs, but in some cases it will be necessary to install a new support for the sign.
Thus, completely installing a new sign and support for it can cost the driver approximately 7-10 thousand rubles, depending on the region. For example, in Vladivostok at the end of 2017 it cost 7,558 rubles.
What if other city property is damaged?
The driver faces similar consequences, but it all depends on what exactly is damaged. Conventionally, objects that can be damaged by a driver can be divided into technical means of organizing traffic control and urban infrastructure objects. In addition to signs, the following should also be considered technical means:
- traffic lights knocked down in an accident;
- traffic light columns;
- remote control panels;
- traffic controllers;
- communication cabinets;
- individually designed boards and other objects with the help of which DD is organized.
Their damage creates a threat to traffic safety, and therefore the driver may also be fined under Art. 12.33 Code of Administrative Offences.
City infrastructure objects can be considered:
- lanterns;
- noise barriers;
- power line poles;
- advertising poles;
- fences, enclosures;
- trees and so on.
They do not participate in organizing traffic, and therefore there is no fine for colliding with them. But this does not mean that there was no accident in this case - material damage was caused, and therefore it is necessary to call the police. If all the above conditions are met, the insurance will compensate for the damage. Well, you will have to repair the car yourself in the absence of Casco insurance.
Fine for knocking down a road sign
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Tell me, no one has encountered this - they knocked down a road sign for damaging roads.
property seems to be subject to a fine of 5,000-10,000 rubles. They say that they can also charge you for work on restoring the type sign according to the estimates (although it just needed to be buried) - is this on top of the amount of the fine or is it included in it?
And is it possible to apply for compulsory motor liability insurance?
Article 12.33 of the Administrative Code Damage to roads, railway crossings or other road structures.
Damage to roads, railway crossings or other road structures or technical means of organizing road traffic, which creates a threat to road safety, as well as deliberate creation of interference in road traffic, including by polluting the road surface.
Fine for citizens in the amount of 5,000 to 10,000 rubles; for officials - 25,000 rubles; for legal entities - 300,000 rubles.
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A fine under the Code of Administrative Offenses is a measure of administrative liability, while the cost of restoration work is a measure of civil liability.
Administrative and civil liability exist independently of each other, and as a result cannot be made dependent on one another. Thus, you may be required to pay a fine, based on the relevant resolution, or the obligation to pay for restoration work.
The statement that the sanction of an article of the Code of Administrative Offenses must contain a condition on payment for restoration work is not true; the norms of the Code of Administrative Offenses cannot contain such an instruction/instruction/punishment.
A remark on the review of judicial practice is quite appropriate.
Please note that the key point is the phrase: “which creates a threat to road safety,” while the disposition of the article is silent about intent.
Fine for knocking down a road sign during an accident
How to avoid collecting a fine for a sign knocked down during an accident?
Moscow Free assessment of your situation Hello Yulia. A road sign or fence was damaged - Art. 12.33 Code of Administrative Offenses Accidentally ran into a road sign and knocked it down. Traffic police officers arrived and issued a fine for damaging the sign. Is this legal? According to paragraph 1.5 of the Traffic Rules, it is prohibited to damage or pollute road surfaces, remove, block, damage, unauthorized installation of road signs, traffic lights and other technical means of traffic management, leave objects on the road that interfere with traffic. Liability for damage signs or road structures occurs if this creates a threat to road safety. Since road signs are means of organizing traffic and their absence, or their damage, in itself entails a threat to traffic safety. Liability for damage to roads, signs or other road structures
What if the accident was caused by a road sign?
If you immediately registered the fact of an accident, then it makes sense to continue to defend your rights, relying on the video from the recorder.
It is necessary to file a claim against the organization servicing this section of the road. By the way, if an accident report was not drawn up and the driver left the scene of the accident, then he may face administrative liability under Art.
12.27 of the Code of Administrative Offenses of the Russian Federation, punishment - deprivation of the right to drive vehicles for a period of one to one and a half years or administrative arrest for a period of up to fifteen days.
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Fine for knocking down a road sign
Then you need to call your insurance company with which your car is registered.
Each insurance states that it will protect your rights; if you cause an accident and cause harm to health or someone else’s property, the insurance will cover the damage caused. If during an accident you damaged government property, or rather knocked down a road sign, this qualifies as damage to someone else’s property, so the insurance company will compensate for the damage, and if the amount of damage exceeds the amount specified in the insurance, then you will pay extra on your own.
Employees must draw up a report and indicate that you are a victim.
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Then you need to call your insurance company with which your car is registered. Each insurance states that it will protect your rights; if you cause an accident and cause harm to health or someone else’s property, the insurance will cover the damage caused.
If during an accident you damaged government property, or rather knocked down a road sign, this qualifies as damage to someone else’s property, so the damage will be compensated by the insurance company, and if the amount of damage exceeds the amount specified in the insurance, then you will pay extra on your own.
Employees must draw up a report and indicate that you are a victim.
Knocked down a road sign fine
Then you need to call your insurance company with which your car is registered. Each insurance states that it will protect your rights; if you cause an accident and cause harm to health or someone else’s property, the insurance will cover the damage caused.
If during an accident you damaged government property, or rather knocked down a road sign, this qualifies as damage to someone else’s property, so the insurance company will compensate for the damage, and if the amount of damage exceeds the amount specified in the insurance, then you will pay extra on your own. Under no circumstances should you flee the scene of an accident until the traffic police arrive. For fleeing the scene of an offense, you may be subject to criminal liability, and if you do everything according to the law, your insurance company will compensate the injured party.
If you have caused damage to someone else's property due to another driver.
In addition, DVRs and external surveillance cameras installed in the city become invisible witnesses. In accordance with Part.