Is it possible to transport gasoline in a plastic canister?

Why can't you pour gasoline into plastic containers?

Today is an interesting article, I was recently asked the following question - why can’t you pour gasoline into plastic containers at a gas station? Let's say a canister or a regular soda bottle. Such rules are posted at almost every gas station in Russia, and gas station employees “rigidly” monitor this. But it is only allowed in metal cans! Some kind of injustice. I decided to look into this topic and this is what happened...

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To begin with, I would like to note that you can still pour gasoline into some plastic cans at gas stations; you can read about such options in this article . This is specially prepared plastic, made using a special technology, sometimes the inscription “GAZOLINE” (or in Russian “PETROL”) is applied to the “sides”, see a useful GIF.

Now let’s look at what the “ordinary” guy did wrong.

There are several reasons for this, some are purely “scientific”, others, as I mean, are purely “popular”, that is, a “conspiracy of the gas station operators.”

Scientific arguments

There are three of them, and you've probably heard about them. Let's go over these "important" points:

1) This is that plastic, especially the kind from which “soda bottles” are made, can cause a fire. In general, this is “rooted” in physics, which tells us that yes, indeed, the accumulation of static electricity is possible, especially when interacting with various kinds of tissues. Thus, a spark may occur, the gasoline will ignite and a fire cannot be avoided. Refuelers know this - that’s why they prohibit it! You know, there is some truth in this, but there are very, very few fires that occurred in this way in Russia, and in the world! However, this is the root cause of the ban.

2) Plastic that is not designed for gasoline may simply dissolve. This is a more or less plausible argument. Some types of containers really do not hold gasoline or other “caustic” liquids well. As a rule, these are food packaging, including some bottles.

I myself witnessed when gasoline “corroded” a bottle of well-known mineral water, which was supposedly made to save nature. However, I don’t think anyone will pour 0.5 liters into containers.

3) Pressure in the container. Also the “supposedly” correct argument is that some cans (of course, bottles) will not be able to withstand the “pressure” of gasoline. And as you know, gasoline is a really volatile liquid. If the temperature outside increases, it tries to evaporate, which creates excess pressure. Some containers will simply burst - but this will most likely happen in the trunk of a car rather than at a gas station.

These are the main arguments of the tankers. Some are really justified, because if even one “works”, then people may suffer. That's why gas stations don't take risks.

Folk explanations

They also exist and work especially hard in the vastness of our homeland, and also in some countries that are similar to us - mainly as they “believe” that this is for deception. And there are clear points here too.

1) Underfilling. If you pour it into a container where you know exactly the displacement, then you can easily figure out the deceiver. Of course, large chains are unlikely to do this, but small ones are fine - and it’s so easy to control in 1.5 bottles.

2) Gasoline quality. Often we don’t see what’s flowing into our tank! Or all sorts of rubbish can leak (again returning to the “no name” gas stations), if you pour it into plastic it’s very easy to calculate the quality, even by eye. We are watching a video that was viewed by thousands of viewers (there is obscene language, 18+)

It is clear why it is no longer possible to cast in transparent plastic.

One way or another, there are good reasons why you are prohibited from pouring gasoline into such containers. You know - most likely, this is justified. After all, even the slightest chance that an explosion could occur must be suppressed, which is what they do at gas stations.

However, you also need to properly defend your rights; if you have a gasoline canister, then just show it to the gas station attendant or administrator, at this stage everything will be decided. If not, then ask for the phone number and contact senior management.

To be honest, you can fill such a canister (with the inscription “GAZOLINE”), I personally filled it at several gas stations - they didn’t even ask the question!

Guys, I think it helped you, read our automotive website , there will be a lot more interesting things.

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What canisters can you use to store and transport gasoline?

Which canister to choose for gasoline? It all depends on how you will use it, that is, pour fuel for storage or transportation. Let's figure out which gasoline canister is better and for what conditions it is more suitable, and also find out what is allowed by the rules of the gas station.

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Which canister can you store gasoline in?

A common question: which canister is best to store gasoline in? We answer: in any container intended for gasoline.

Another common question: what kind of gasoline canister should be so that the fuel retains its properties over a long period of time? We answer: the fuel will not deteriorate and will retain its properties in any gasoline canister. The guaranteed shelf life of motor gasoline, according to clause 6.1 of GOST 2084–77, is 5 years, subject to a number of conditions, including the use of containers specially designed for this purpose. This GOST is silent about which canisters it is allowed to fill with gasoline (in terms of the material used to make them).

When storing gasoline in a canister, you must follow several rules:

1. Fill the container to the nominal volume.
2. Do not place the canister near a heat source or open flame.
3. Do not use the canister as a stand or support (do not stack canisters on top of each other, in several levels).

Which gasoline canister is best to buy?

Let's look at what types of gasoline cans there are, and briefly analyze their advantages and disadvantages:

1. Polyethylene canisters are the cheapest and lightest; Unresistant to pressure changes and mechanical stress. The cost of a polyethylene canister, for example, Redmark, starts from 183 rubles for a volume of 5 liters. Often, polyethylene containers are equipped with nozzles to simplify refueling a car directly from the canister. It is not recommended to transport gasoline in a car in polyethylene cans; If transportation is necessary, the plastic container must be securely fastened.
2. Steel canisters are strong and heavy (the weight of a 20 liter container is about 4.5 kg) and cost an average of 1,000 rubles. They are suitable both for long-term storage and for transporting gasoline in a car. Such canisters are made of low-carbon steel 08KP in accordance with GOST 5105–82. Petrol-resistant enamel ML-629 (or its analogue) protects the metal inside the canister from corrosion for an average of 10 years. After this period, a deposit of rust and peeling paint may form at the bottom of the container.
3. Aluminum canisters are comparable in cost to steel canisters. This fuel container is strong and lightweight, withstands approximately the same internal pressure as steel, but is somewhat inferior in resistance to external mechanical stress. Made from sheet aluminum in accordance with GOST 21631–76. The inner surface of the canister is etched, which eliminates the formation of aluminum oxides and prevents fuel contamination with fine oxides for a long time. There are no restrictions on the transportation and storage of gasoline in aluminum cans.

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Which canisters can you fill with gasoline at a gas station and why?

There are often cases when an operator at a gas station simply does not release fuel to a motorist if he sees plastic containers. So, in what canister can you fill gasoline at a gas station according to the law, and what document regulates this?

What gasoline cans are allowed at gas stations is written in the rules for the technical operation of gas stations in the Russian Federation. Clause 14.3 of these rules states: “It is prohibited to dispense petroleum products in plastic and glass containers.”

This is due to the fact that plastic and glass accumulate static electricity, which can cause a spark discharge. A spark when refueling will lead to disastrous consequences. It does not matter whether your canister is made of ordinary plastic or special one that resists the accumulation of static electricity. But the antistatic properties of even special plastic decrease over time, and the gas station operator cannot know whether these properties are maintained at a sufficiently safe level in your particular canister.

The online store TopDetal.ru sells gasoline cans at the best prices. In our catalog you will find plastic, steel and aluminum canisters of various sizes from reputable manufacturers.

Also read in our autoblog about how to choose a good alarm system.

Is it possible to pour gasoline into a plastic canister?

It often happens that fuel needs to be transported in containers. For example, if they need to refuel a motorboat or special equipment that will not get to the gas station under its own power, if it is needed for equipment or tools (such as a chainsaw), or if you are on a long road trip and decide to insure yourself in case of a lack of gasoline in the tank far from "civilization" and gas stations.

But having reached the gas station and taking a polyethylene canister with you, you will suddenly see with bewilderment an announcement that dispensing gasoline or diesel fuel in glass and plastic containers is prohibited. And this is not a whim of gas station workers - the prohibition is stated in clause 9.17 of the Gas Station Operating Rules. And here the question arises: if there are no problems with metal containers, is it possible to pour gasoline into a plastic canister in principle?

Why do gas stations refuse plastic?

The reason for the ban on pouring fuel into a plastic canister is simple. More precisely, there are several of them.

• Firstly, plastic as a dielectric material is capable of accumulating static charge. There are risks that when gasoline is poured from a canister into a tank and the fuel gets on the metal body, the charge may discharge, giving a spark and causing ignition of gasoline vapors.
• Secondly, ordinary plastic material (polyethylene) has micropores. Over time, gasoline penetrates them, seeping out. In addition to the unpleasant odor, this also causes the formation of dangerous vapors that accumulate, for example, when the canister is left in the trunk for a long time.
• Third, if the plastic is of poor quality, it can corrode and become deformed, allowing the dangerous process described above to occur even faster.

After all this, it seems that the question of whether plastic cans can be filled with gasoline sounds even more uncertain and dubious. And someone will be surprised to learn that, for example, in Europe, it is precisely such canisters that have long been successfully replacing their heavy metal counterparts! What's the matter?

Plastic is different from plastic

So, is it possible to store gasoline in a plastic can? Yes, you can. Only this container must be made of special plastic - with improved characteristics and have appropriate markings. In no case do ordinary containers that indicate “For technical liquids” fit these characteristics.

• Such canisters (usually 5, 10, 20 liters in volume) are made from low-density polyethylene (HD-PE). The plastic is extremely durable, which can be checked quickly and easily - just step firmly on the body of the canister with your foot - there should be no deformation.
• Components are added to the material that completely prevent it from accumulating static electricity.
• The canister is sealed with a special kind of lid - you need to perform several manipulations at once, applying sufficient force to open it. Thus, the container is protected from accidental opening by children.
• On the front of the container you will find the inscription: GOST 26319 “Dangerous cargo. Packaging”, according to the standards of which this canister was made. Looking at this GOST, in table No. 1 we will see polymer canisters in which gasoline can be transported (hazard class III) - narrow-neck (3N1) and wide-neck (3N2).

In addition to GOST, the label will contain other information: an indication of UN approval with confirmation by a separate emblem and approval number and a number of others.

It is important to know

You're at a gas station again. And again you ask the gas station worker if it is possible to transport gasoline in a plastic canister, showing the one you need. And you will be very surprised to hear a negative answer again. The thing is that such containers must be certified. The certificate is her passport, an “identity” that must be presented (at least a copy of it) if you want the canister to be refilled. Hence the advice - always have this document or a copy of it with you!

So, do you put gasoline in a plastic can? We found out - they pour it. But not just any one, but only a special one, which must be confirmed by both the marking and the corresponding document.

There are bans on spilling fuel into plastic containers at all gas stations.

It is obvious that a PET bottle of kvass and a canister made of antistatic plastic are slightly different in terms of safety when fuel is spilled in them.

yes, but the gas station guys don't give a fuck)

although a plastic canister is shit, it’s better to buy a normal iron one once and not fuck your brain

I think my driving instructor in general. ahem. young.

Not plastic, but polyethylene. There are different types of plastic. There are plastics that do not react with gasoline - polycarbonate, cellulose acetate.

Listen, you don’t know - in Breaking Bad, Mr. White told Jessie that he needed to buy a plastic bathtub with the number 7 on the bottom to dissolve the corpse in acid. I looked, number 7 is the rest of the plastics. What did he recommend buying there?

Polyvinyl chloride most likely

“Somewhere there are n*****s, but I can’t figure out where.”

I recently saw two advertisements at a gas station:

1. Refilling in plastic containers is prohibited.

2. Refilling in plastic containers is free

When I asked whether it was forbidden or free, they explained to me that you can’t refill it from a dispenser into a plastic one, but if necessary, the operators will fill the iron one and pour it into the plastic one completely free of charge.

Why minus it, I pay money to the gas station attendant for such an operation, so I also need to ask for this, there were cases when I ran out of gas and screwed up who knows where with the canister, and then “we don’t fill in plastic”

The husband said that when he was a schoolboy, one of his acquaintances (also a schoolboy) decided to sniff gasoline and for this purpose came to a gas station. He asked there for a liter (or less), they naturally refused him, he plaintively asked to be poured into a bag.

It’s written in POLYETHYLENE, not plastic. Polyethylene accumulates static electricity from the friction of gasoline on the canister. You bring a metal gun to the neck, you get a static spark and beautiful fireworks

They are poured into plastic, they are still being poured in despite the weighty warnings. Here the question is different. Will you store such a can of gasoline in your garage/shed/apartment? For example, I wouldn't.

So that's what they are designed for. Metal cans also leak.

Those canisters they sell are “special” and can be filled in. And now the story: 2 months ago I bought such a 10-liter canister at Lukoil, not so long ago I went on another long trip and decided to fill the canister with a full tank, just in case. So at the gas station they also refused to fill me with Lukoil and I swore for about 20 minutes, eventually I spat and left.

No, well, they pour it into aluminum and then pour it over. We just recently started living in Krasnodar, and we only have a can of antifreeze on hand. Well, we missed the gas station. And there the system was debugged: they poured it into dented, dead aluminum, then poured it and that’s it, the law was not broken - everyone was happy. ))

and most gas tanks are also plastic

where have you seen plastic bins? they are always metal covered on the outside with plastic to prevent corrosion

In 90% of new cars.

I work in a car service station, I’ve never seen it before)

I'm a diagnostician too :3

All Nissans except the NP300 have had plastic for a long time.

Now metal is already a relative rarity.

Well, maybe. Old people usually come to me. And then I’ll have to look at the Renault, my dad has a Duster, I’ll take a look in the evening.

Skoda Octavia A7 is a completely plastic tank. I drive it myself.

maybe on any sports cars. although it's unlikely

Even on the Lada, the plastic is reduced

Lada Kalina received a plastic gas tank

The Togliatti Automobile Plant has begun equipping Lada Kalina cars with a plastic gas tank, which in the near future will completely replace the previous steel part.

The plastic gas tank of Lada Kalina is 4 kilograms lighter than the steel one. The material for the new unit has a multilayer structure, which includes high-density polyethylene, adhesives and a polyamide barrier layer. Design features made it possible to reduce the cost of this element and reduce the complexity of manufacturing and installation on the vehicle.

The plastic tank has passed a set of international reliability tests. Lada Kalina with a new gas tank is supplied both to the domestic market and abroad.

photo - that moment when I wanted to take a photo of my butt in shorts, but I was shy and took off the warning sign

there's probably a banner there

These are mobile toilets for when you are stuck in traffic and need to relieve yourself.

The author is either a novice driver or a passenger. They don’t pour it into transparent water bottles (there are several nuances here because of this, including so that they don’t see what kind of shitty gasoline they have), but even these can be tearfully persuaded (it stalled several times near gas stations) and in these pour calmly. in any case, they didn’t pick on me

10 years of experience, by profession and education - automotive engineer, lol.

I actually tried to fill it into a canister like this (bought at a gas station), and as a result I returned the canister. The tankers stuck their horns into the ground, we have cameras here, they’re not supposed to be in plastic.

Well, maybe my face is such that I look like a scooter rider. They probably get picked on less. Once there was a large canister. The second time is small. That's how red they are. They poured it without question.

Is it possible to store gasoline in a plastic canister?

Why you can’t store gasoline in plastic containers: what are the dangers?

Many new motorists who have just received their license, or who have barely gotten behind the wheel of a car, although they may know the theory perfectly well, are not quite ready for everyday life in the car.

You may not know many things that may be useful. For example, not all people, even experienced drivers, know why it is forbidden to pour gasoline into plastic containers. Of course, such a need may arise infrequently, but in some circumstances it may be necessary to pour fuel into a plastic bottle or other container, but this should not be done.

Let's take a look at this moment.

Why you can’t store gasoline in a plastic container (canister)

Many people who have heard about this unspoken rule believe that gasoline cannot be filled into plastic containers due to the fact that it has chemical properties that can simply corrode the plastic. They are confident in this, and based on this understanding of the situation, naturally, they do not store fuel in such conditions. However, they are quite capable of using plastic containers for short-term storage of fuel or for moving it from one container to another. But this is fundamentally wrong. In addition, such actions are not only fraught with serious injury, but can also cause death.

The thing is that you cannot store gasoline in plastic containers due to the fact that vapors are formed in such containers, and the plastic itself is much more susceptible to becoming electrified than, for example, metal cans. That is why, when refueling gasoline in plastic containers, you risk ending the refueling procedure with an explosion.

Car trick

There is a folk trick that allows you to transport gasoline in plastic, but we do not recommend using it. The fact is that savvy drivers came up with the idea of ​​filling plastic containers with gasoline to capacity, so that there was no free space left in the container, and gasoline vapors simply had nowhere to form and reside.

Yes, partly this can be called a solution to the problem. However, another difficulty arises from this - such containers, if transported in the trunk, are susceptible to the lids breaking off, which can lead to gasoline spilling throughout the car.

That is why we recommend that you think again and purchase metal containers in order to insure yourself against such troubles, and to protect yourself from possible threats to the health or life of both yours and your passengers.

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